 Thread: Shoe Loss Mandela Effects |
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I REALLY shouldn't mention it (for reasons I will mention below), but many years ago, when Disney was auctioning off some of it's archive materials. I actually managed to snag an animation cell of Alice throwing one of her shoes at the Cheshire Cat (they said it was for development of a book when I bought it but what book, and why they would put a book illustration on an animation cell, is beyond me.)
The reason I have never mentioned this before is that
1. When I bought the cell, Disney made it clear that they still retained all rights to the image (which means, I suppose, that they digitized it somewhere) And according to my dad the lawyer, that means that I actually CAN'T scan or photograph the cell without committing copyright infringement and leaving myself open to being sued.
2. I am TERRIFIED of what will happen if I leave it out in the light too long and it starts to fade. (I don't even LOOK at it much anymore, it's kept in a pocket in one of by albums, image turned toward the page.)
I CAN however, reveal an interesting tidbit from the image that no one would know from the movie; Alice's shoes are actually center strap (as would be appropriate for the period) as opposed to side strap (as was common when the movie was made). That is, they have TWO short straps that button in the middle, as opposed to one long strap that buttons on one side.
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| Thread: Shoe Loss Mandela Effects |
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That doesn't so much like a Mandela effect as a "I know I saw it, but I don't know where" thing. A Mandela effect would be if you were SURE where you had seen it, but couldn't find it there.
I'm not sure I have had any true Mandela effects (barring possibly the Berenstain Bears one most people seem to have.)
Actually I don't have that many "I know I saw it, but I don't know where" ones anymore either, now that there is Youtube (which allows me to surf around the shows I watched as a kid and FIND where most things are.) There's a fragment of a song from a cartoon that is stuck in my head that I haven't been able to trace yet (it would be in some cartoon movie from the 1980's or earlier, so it probably wouldn't be anything you would know either).
I DO have a deja vu like moment involving shoe loss. When I found my copy of Goldilocks and the Three Bears illustrated by Obligado (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxUvNADzwyA) I immediately remembered having seen it before. Eventually, I remembered we had been read to from a copy in Kindergarten (and I remember asking where Goldilocks's other shoe had gone.)
And there are two "I know I saw it, but haven't been able to find it" ones as well, both also involving Goldilocks. Both date from the time when I was still a kid, and fully financially dependent on my parents (so I couldn't just go and buy things without them knowing.)
One was a fairly cheap version that was part of a combination coloring book and audio tape set that was being sold in CVS (I seem to recall the other side being Alladin). Despite years of prowling on eBay, I have yet to find a copy.
The second was when I was in Great Britain on vacation (I was a lot older then, but since Mom and Dad held all of the pounds sterling and were always with my sister and me, again, no ability to buy.) Featuring teddy bear Three Bears and a ragdoll Goldilocks. Again, no luck in tracking down.
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| Thread: Shoe Loss And M&Ms |
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Okay, I have finally actually SEEN a commercial with the "new" M&M's, and to be honest, I really don't see what the big deal is. Ms. Brown's new shoes look perfectly fine to me. In fact, I think they may look BETTER than the old ones. They may have lost a little heel (and had what is left thickened a little) but they have also lost that platform on the front, which I always though looked stupid (actually if you subtract that platform the actual heel height is probably about the same). And I think they may have actually made the toe a little pointier, which is fine with me.
As for Ms. Green, I really don't have much of a problem there either. I think it would have been nice if they had given her slightly NICER, more fashionable sneakers (like the green ones she had in the gym commercial). But at least they are still rather small and delicate when compared to the huge bump toed things Red and Yellow wear, or Orange's rather scruffy high tops.
I'm not sure, but I think Brown and Green may also have slightly thinner lips, which I think is also an improvement.
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| Thread: One-shoed Anime Figures |
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Actually, when you consider the number of shoe loss pictures there are from the series (as part of the battle damage) that isn't surprising.
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| Thread: One-shoed Anime Figures |
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I managed to find listings for one of mine on eBay (unfortunately the only two people who sill have it are only offering it as part of the complete set, and it's a LOT more expensive now that when I bought mine). But it actually IS closer to what you said you wanted in your kit figure.
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| Thread: One-shoed Anime Figures |
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Boy, I wish my digital camera was already put together, as I have a TON of one shoe/shoe dangle anime figures in my room I could take pictures of (well, actually I COULDN'T take pictures of most of them, since they are still in their boxes and the flash would just bounce off the plastic windows and you wouldn't see anything. And I can't take them OUT of the boxes without destroying their value. but there are a few, I suppose).
The real problem with getting such figures (besides having to troll though innumerable other ones and of course, how expensive they tend to be.) is that it is almost impossible to get a figure once it has gone off market. There really isn't much, if any secondary market for the things, when people buy them, they tend to keep them. Or how I wound up with a bootleg of one of them, because I didn't know better ( you can tell it's a bootleg because 1. it's the wrong size, and 2 whoever sculpted it decided to add naked breast and privates, which the original doesn't have.).
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| Thread: Shoe Loss And M&Ms |
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To be fair, the green M&M HAS been shown in sneakers before. Granted, it was in a commercial where the M&M's were in a GYM, but still.
I imagine we should just count ourselves lucky that they decide to give the "female" M&M's different footwear AT ALL. They could have easily put them in the same while blob shoes as all of the "male" M&M's. Or not made the M&M's gendered AT ALL.
I'm sort of in the middle about this whole thing. I LIKE the appearance of pumps, but the idea of FORCING women to wear them (or indeed forcing ANYONE to wear ANY particular sort of clothing.) doesn't really sit right with me. To imply that women owe us to appear sexy and desirable smacks of misogynism, especially at the cost of their health (if one takes all the reports that narrow toed high heeled shoes are bad for a woman's feet, which there are many of.)
I actually stand WITH the women in Japan who are petitioning the government to no longer make heels a required part of office dress. It feels right.
If a woman wants to dress sexy, let her. If she doesn't let her as well. And if NO women decide to do so, well, that's what art and drawing are for.
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| Thread: Shoe Loss in Cartoons, Games, Movies, and Comics MegaThread |
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Don't know. You'd think that, given that both cultures have a standard custom of removing their shoes when they enter houses, Japanese and Koreans (and Chinese as well) would have more than their fill of seeing unshod feet. It's a little hard to develop a fetish for something that is really, really common (the same way that, if you live in a tribe somewhere in the jungle where the women all go around topless, you probably aren't going to get aroused every time you see a naked breast.)
The only thing I can think of is that, SINCE all these cultures are ones where taking off your shoes is such a normal thing, and SINCE it is considered to be good manners to take them off without using you hands (if possible) there is a greater favoritism for shoes that are slip-ons and/or loose. So it may not be so much that Asians find shoe loss more erotic culturally as much as shoe loss is simply commoner there.
That being said, there IS a definite sexual angle in some cases, given how many pieces of anime art I have seen of females either asking their male counterparts to kiss/smell their feet as a sign of submission, or offering footjobs.
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| Thread: Asian woman/Sci fi |
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There also may be a cultural advantage. If Korea is anything like Japan, it is considered preferable to, if possible, slip out of your shoes without having to touch them with your hands. Hence a bias in favor of shoes that slip off easily.
Anyhow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5aJVJw2Mfo
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| Thread: Shoe Loss in Cartoons, Games, Movies, and Comics MegaThread |
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Yes I do
Not not really. Toes aren't flat at the end so I'd still have to try and draw the ends. Fact is, I can only really do the ones I do because Ono, for all he goes into detail on shoes, does NOT do much detail on socks or stockings (the stripes on the Alice Through the Looking glass and Little Lord Fauntleroy are about as fancy as he goes.)
Though there is ONE case in the edits I did where I was able to cover the boot WITH a sock (so it looks like the girl is wearing a boot on one foot and a sock on the other)
And there is at least one of the new ones I would like to re-do since I don't think it came out as well as it could (the bottom of the stocking foot is too flat, I should have followed the curve of the foot better)
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| Thread: Shoe Loss in Cartoons, Games, Movies, and Comics MegaThread |
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Originally posted by jr5713
Oh yeah. Nopperabo, I really liked those edits you would do to scans you had. |
Well, there are a few of those I did since then, but posting them will have to wait until I have a new posting platform.
And I probably won't be doing that many more of those, as I have sort of run out of usable illustrations.
As I mentioned in order for them to look "natural" I can't do anything with
Girls not wearing any socks or stockings (since I can't draw toes)
High heels (usually) since they put the foot in a different position than it would be in if they were wearing lower shoes (so the result looks awkward)
(Usually) any one Yutaka Ono did where the characters are wearing ankle boots, since he draws them with a sort of flare at the top that is hard to erase. (or why I have never tried to work with the Goldilocks volume)
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