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Originally posted by grizzletoad1
Not the TikTok stuff, the stuff posted by JR 5713. |
Pretty much all of that is findable on YouTube, except the two Kindaichi Shounen no Jikenbo Returns episodes. THOSE may be available on Crunchyroll, Disney+, or Paramount+, according to one site I found (I don't have any of those, so I can't confirm).
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Originally posted by Mandrake
Some nice finds here. Maison Ikkoku has a lot of stocking feet scenes. I wonder if the creator shared our interests. |
It's possible, but I think a big part here is the context. Most of these kind of anime are between people in high school, and so the individuals are in high school uniforms. And (at least at the time this cartoon was written) high school uniforms would be worn with socks, not stockings.)
Maison Ikkoku, however, features characters that are mostly NOT in school at the moment, and dressed in their own, day to day clothes. That means the females are in things like pumps, and that means stockings or pantyhose (Japan may be one of the few places where it is fashionably acceptable to wear heels with socks, but it still isn't the norm.)
Also, this takes place mostly in an inn. People in Japan take their shoes off at the door, so one would expect stocking feet from any inside shots. And, this being an inn, there are more of those than there might be in a similar anime).
Incidentally, there is one additional single shoe picture in the manga (don't remember which volume) besides the kicking one. There is one panel of Kyoko's coming in to the inn after going out, and the panel catches her just as she is removing one foot from one of her pumps.
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For the collectors out there, there is apparently a Funko Pop of Suicide Squad Harley Quinn with only one boot (like at the beginning of the movie) out there (though I suspect it is a limited edition, given that there doesn't seem to be a copy on eBay at the moment.)
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Originally posted by jr5713
Hawaii Five-O (Classic), Season 2, Episode 14
The wife of a bank's boss gets murdered and for a short time, you can see the lower half of her body on the floor with only one of her white heels on. It's almost 25 minutes in. I think she's wearing stockings or nylons but correct me if I'm wrong. |
It sounds sort of like the beginning of the First issue of the comic Murder Me Dead. In that case, you have a hanging woman in one white heel (including a closeup of her feet for the front cover). Oddly, despite the fact that one can assume her other heel fell off when she hung herself, it isn't on the ground in any of the pictures. Maybe this is significant later (I've only ever seen the first volume.)
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For those of the furry-ish persuasion (or, at least, furry tolerant persuasion), a couple of weeks ago, an artist showed up on Danbooru who seems to have done a LOT of single shoe/ shoe dangle pictures. I won't claim they are GREAT pictures (he or she seems to have a thing for showing shoes that are worn out, missing their laces, smashed in, or otherwise wrecked) but there are quite a few (and do worry, none of this is actually NSFW, it's mild ecchi at best)
https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts?tags=fox-pop_vli&z=1
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Well, I just saw the trailer for the new Velma cartoon (and hence, got my first whole body look at the character) and damn it, they once again have decided to go for more "contemporary" footwear, swapping Velma's red Mary Janes for dark red to brown boots/sneakers (hard to tell which). So shoe losses are unlikely (they're way too high to slip off.)
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Originally posted by Nepenthy
interesting how they all lose their right shoe |
There's a reason for that (though, given your predilection, you may not like it). In the same way that the majority of people are right handed, most people are right footed as well. That mean that the right foot is more dominant in most actions, like walking. They start on their right foot and it's the one they push off with. Therefore, it flexes more, which, of course, is going to increase the likelihood of it flexing itself out of the shoe. Add on that Asia is still one of those places where the bias towards right-ness is still pretty strong (i.e. where left handed people are still encouraged to try and use their right hand instead), and that a lot of actions OFFICIALLY begin on the right foot (like military marching, since everyone has to stay in step) and that's where the bias comes from.
Which, I suppose, means that, if you have a preference for left shoe loss, you might do better trying to focus on videos and pictures of people who are left handed.
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Since they seem to be Chinese or Korean, I assume the shoe losses in the first clip are accidental, but in Japan kicking off your shoe is a common folkway of trying to predict the weather (right side up, sunny, upside down, rainy; it's a lot more detailed if you are wearing getas.) or trying to make a decision (troped in the second episode of Sailor Moon [the one that was cut out of the US syndication],Strawberry Marshmallow, and, of course, Azumaga Diaoh).
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I'm not writing an oz book, I'm writing about a half dozen oz books, all at the same time. When I get an idea, I write it down and then see which story idea it fits best into. If you simply go into my Deviantart folder, you will find fifteen other short bits I have managed to get down, and there are two or three more I could put down right now when and if I had time.
Fair warning though, my Oz is NOT exactly like the Baum one (though it is closer to that than to, say, the MGM movie universe, or the Greg Maguire Wicked one.) A fundamental thing in my writing is that, while people in Oz don't age unless they want to, they DO change over time, as they live longer and gain new experiences. Dorothy (due to a combination of not that much responsibility and easy access to Professor Wogglebug's learning pills) is now far more educated and knowledgeable than most university professors would be in our world (most people in Oz are, since the pills are available freely) and has lost her Midwestern accent (the result of accidentally taking an elocution pill that got mixed into her oratory pills). Jack Pumpkinhead has availed himself of the pills as well (by dissolving them in the water he uses of his head pumpkins and so now HE isn't dumb anymore. And he had his body redone so he's not clumsy anymore either (the Scarecrow is actually slightly jealous of him now, as he is now a GREAT dancer and not afraid to show it when Scraps needs a partner.)
Ozma, as I said, is now a tomboy who usually dresses in boyish clothes (while paradoxically also being a bit of a clothes horse with a truly extensive wardrobe.) The Wizard is still the Wizard, but I have pointed out his few character flaws (that he is often overproud now that he knows real magic, and also has a tendency to not adhere to the tenet "if it ain't broke, don't fix it."
Politically things are very different as well. Not only is there peace with the Nomes under Kaliko, they are actually now very close Oz allies, and labor and goods flow freely between Oz and the Nomish Empire (Kaliko changed the name to reflect that there a a lot of subjects in the empire who are not, racially, Nomes, including his father.) People travel a lot through the empire as well, on the NART (a vast pneumatic railway system the Nomes have built throughout all of Nonestica, which means the Deadly Desert is no longer usually a problem for people wanting to get from, say, Oz to Ev.
The Oz people even now have something akin to telephones and televisions, thanks to one of the Wizard's experiments (basically, they're simplified, mass produced versions of the Magic Picture.) Which allow Ozites to not only communicate with each other, but even keep an eye on our world (which explains, for example, how the Emerald Palace chefs can cook more ethnically diverse dishes than one might expect from Baum's Oz.)
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Originally posted by Nopperabo
Great for the fetish idea, but kind of dumb in terms of making sense, since, 1. most people have more than one pair of shoes, so voting multiple times is easy and 2. A fairly large portion of the citizens of oz don't WEAR shoes (remember, as talking sentient beings, individuals like the Cowardly Lion, the Woozy, the Hungry Tiger and so on as as entitled to vote as anyone else under Oz laws,) or have ones that are not removable (contrary to what Niell says in the text, the Tin Woodman's shoes are just painted on, and the Scarecrow's boot and his lower leg/foot are the same thing, there isn't anything INSIDE of it except straw.
Burt as I said, I know of no one who did any. For a while I hoped the most recent Japanese set might get there, since they were doing EVEREYTHING. But, like so many times before, they stopped at volume 15 (Baum's 14 plus the Little Wizard stories).
A big problem is that quite a few of the Thompson books that make up the second half of the "Famous Forty" are still under copyright, and so exist in this weird limbo where Del Rey book doesn't want to re-print them themselves because they don't think they'll make enough money on it, and don't want anyone ELSE to re-print or make new editions because it would violate their copyright rights. So a lot of the second half books are hard to find and not well known anymore. The only reason Wonder City WAS reprinted was because Books of Wonder in NY literally BEGGED for it to be.
Also, Wonder City is not a favorite of a lot of readers, they consider the plot poorly thought out.
Also WHO would do it. The number of really famous Oz illustrators who are still alive and well regarded are pretty few. Rob Roy McVeigh is dead. Eric Shantower IS alive, but by now tends only to illustrate either the books he himself writes or are sanctioned directly by the IWOC. Same with the Ages of Oz guy; he's too busy trying to twist Oz into his own plotline. And most of the other ones really aren't that good (there was an interesting edition of the Royal Book of Oz a few years ago, but that was the exception, not the rule.)
A for my stuff, because of that logic thing, shoe losses are few and far between. There's one in The Lost Island of Oz (actually, not a loss, an outright destruction) and an allusion to one that happened in the past in another one explaining WHY Jenny Jump's Golden Fairy Foot slipper is now locked in the Royal vault, by her choice. The Mixmatch Witch of Oz has no shoe losses, but several shoe finds.
Finally, there are a FEW loss book I know of I could point you to. A Refugee in Oz has a shoe removal in it, and while there is no picture of Dorothy with a stocking foot, there IS one of her with the bindings put on her foot once her shoe was taken.
Also if you can find a copy of The Silver Shoes of Oz (it's pretty rare) one illustration shows Scraps the Patchwork Girl missing one of her boots (which actually shouldn't happen, as they are sewn onto her feet)
Oh and in the later famous 40, Manny loses one of her wooden shoes in one of the pictures in Handy Manny in Oz. |
I was able to find an illustrated version of Handy Mandy online.
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/56079/56079-h/56079-h.htm
I couldn't find "The Lost Island of Oz" though. Not even a link to buy it. "A Refugee in Oz" is available for purchase, but there are no free versions available online that I could find. Perhaps that's because the book is still under copyright. |
That's because "The Lost Island of Oz" is the title of one of MY Oz writings, and hasn't been published yet! It hasn't even been COMPLETED yet (I have a few fragments, and some bits of plot, but nothing like a cohesive story), anymore than any other Oz story I've written had been (the closest I ever came to a complete Oz story was a single post story chapter to a round robin the IWOC did. And even THAT never saw the light of day, since I got it in AFTER the story was completed (though the editor did say it was refreshing to read something that actually came from someone who was able to write!)
The closest to a complete part is Oz excerpt #5 in my Deviantart folder, which at least explains the no heels rule and WHY her old Mary Janes are now so important to Dorothy.
(and consequently, why losing one of them permanently later in the story is so devastating) (https://www.deviantart.com/goreyacolyte/art/Oz-Excerpt-5-900883184)
The Jenny Jump one I don't think I've written down yet. Basically the reason Jenny doesn't use the slipper anymore is that it fell off once while she was in the air mid jump resulting in her breaking her leg rather badly when she landed, and convincing her that that fairy gift was too dangerous to keep using.
I managed to find the Deviantart link to the refugee picture (which is in color, unlike in the book) https://www.deviantart.com/negaduck9/art/Standing-on-Broken-Glass-148390592
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Lulu seems to have re-printed the Silver shoes of Oz ( https://www.lulu.com/shop/marin-elizabeth-xiques/the-silver-shoes-of-oz/pap
erback/product-1jwjd9rk.html?page=1&pageSize=4)
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Great for the fetish idea, but kind of dumb in terms of making sense, since, 1. most people have more than one pair of shoes, so voting multiple times is easy and 2. A fairly large portion of the citizens of oz don't WEAR shoes (remember, as talking sentient beings, individuals like the Cowardly Lion, the Woozy, the Hungry Tiger and so on as as entitled to vote as anyone else under Oz laws,) or have ones that are not removable (contrary to what Niell says in the text, the Tin Woodman's shoes are just painted on, and the Scarecrow's boot and his lower leg/foot are the same thing, there isn't anything INSIDE of it except straw.
Burt as I said, I know of no one who did any. For a while I hoped the most recent Japanese set might get there, since they were doing EVEREYTHING. But, like so many times before, they stopped at volume 15 (Baum's 14 plus the Little Wizard stories).
A big problem is that quite a few of the Thompson books that make up the second half of the "Famous Forty" are still under copyright, and so exist in this weird limbo where Del Rey book doesn't want to re-print them themselves because they don't think they'll make enough money on it, and don't want anyone ELSE to re-print or make new editions because it would violate their copyright rights. So a lot of the second half books are hard to find and not well known anymore. The only reason Wonder City WAS reprinted was because Books of Wonder in NY literally BEGGED for it to be.
Also, Wonder City is not a favorite of a lot of readers, they consider the plot poorly thought out.
Also WHO would do it. The number of really famous Oz illustrators who are still alive and well regarded are pretty few. Rob Roy McVeigh is dead. Eric Shantower IS alive, but by now tends only to illustrate either the books he himself writes or are sanctioned directly by the IWOC. Same with the Ages of Oz guy; he's too busy trying to twist Oz into his own plotline. And most of the other ones really aren't that good (there was an interesting edition of the Royal Book of Oz a few years ago, but that was the exception, not the rule.)
A for my stuff, because of that logic thing, shoe losses are few and far between. There's one in The Lost Island of Oz (actually, not a loss, an outright destruction) and an allusion to one that happened in the past in another one explaining WHY Jenny Jump's Golden Fairy Foot slipper is now locked in the Royal vault, by her choice. The Mixmatch Witch of Oz has no shoe losses, but several shoe finds.
Finally, there are a FEW loss book I know of I could point you to. A Refugee in Oz has a shoe removal in it, and while there is no picture of Dorothy with a stocking foot, there IS one of her with the bindings put on her foot once her shoe was taken.
Also if you can find a copy of The Silver Shoes of Oz (it's pretty rare) one illustration shows Scraps the Patchwork Girl missing one of her boots (which actually shouldn't happen, as they are sewn onto her feet)
Oh and in the later famous 40, Manny loses one of her wooden shoes in one of the pictures in Handy Manny in Oz.
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There is also, I think a BIG lost opportunity for shoe loss in the later Oz books.
In The Wonder City of Oz, which John R. Niell (normally the illustrator) wrote himself. There is an Ozelection for rule over the Emerald City. In the original round of this people cast their votes by leaving their right shoes at the polling places of their respective choices. That means that, for a period, pretty much EVERYONE in the Emerald City would be in one shoe. Even more so when the Heelers (who eat votes, and so scarf up all of the results, along with most of the right shoes of those who HADN'T voted yet, thereby making that round invalid).
I'd do some myself, if I was actually a competent artist. Until then I just have to add such losses as I can satisfactorily explain into my own Oz work. |
heh I don't know why but i almost wish that the City of Attis in the dervland story by mandrake had a smilar rule for voting, seeing how the whole story is a wizard of oz parody |
I actually used that bit as a plot point in one of my stories to explain why it is now ILLEGAL in Oz to wear high heeled shoes. (remember, when I am writing, I tend to sublimate and suppress what I would LIKE to see happen in favor of working out what LOGICALLY makes sense within the story. I write to please others tastes, not my own, sort of.)
The way I put it, outside of the Island of Pingaree, (where high heels are referred to as canon by Baum) heels of any kind never really caught on in Oz, for the simple reason that there was no need for them. There weren't any animals to ride (that's what high heels were originally invented for by the Persians, giving your foot something that could catch in the stirrup when you rode, all the height increases and strut stuff came much later) and nearly all of the roads are either rough dirt, cobbles or bricks (i.e. bad surfaces for heels). Pingaree style shoes DID have a brief fashion period, but the Ozelection actually put an end to that, as a lot of people walking around in one high heel translated to MASSIVE numbers of sprains and broken ankles. So that ban is one of the few sumptuary laws Ozma has ever issued (it doesn't hurt that, in my work Ozma is not only far closer to her canon age (i.e. about eight as opposed to a teenager) and has decided that, as she is the queen and can please herself, she will dress the way SHE wants to, which is a far more masculine manner than she used to (she still remembers being Tip, and misses being able to run and play in the boisterous way boys do, which frilly dresses sort of impede) with tights, doublets, jerkins etc.) At a quarter of an inch, the heels on the Mary Janes Dorothy was wearing when she came to Oz for good (which are significant in one of the stories I wrote) are the highest heeled shoes anywhere currently in Oz (and a way that Dorothy can indicate when she is annoyed with Ozma.)
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There is also, I think a BIG lost opportunity for shoe loss in the later Oz books.
In The Wonder City of Oz, which John R. Niell (normally the illustrator) wrote himself. There is an Ozelection for rule over the Emerald City. In the original round of this people cast their votes by leaving their right shoes at the polling places of their respective choices. That means that, for a period, pretty much EVERYONE in the Emerald City would be in one shoe. Even more so when the Heelers (who eat votes, and so scarf up all of the results, along with most of the right shoes of those who HADN'T voted yet, thereby making that round invalid). A great chance for some single shoe artwork, and yet there is NOTHING. Niell himself forgets about this detail in the illustration of Jenny Jump in the Fairy Garden when she asks them to drive the Heelers away (for a long time, I thought this picture might be ambigous, since on of Jenny's feet is facing towards the reader, and it is hard to tell if the line on it is the top of her pump or a fold in her stocking. But then I realize that that foot is her LEFT foot, and that with her right, there is no question, as it is turned to the side and you can see her shoe heel.)
And the few foreign versions of this story I know of (both printed in Russia) don't have illustrations of this bit AT ALL.
I'd do some myself, if I was actually a competent artist. Until then I just have to add such losses as I can satisfactorily explain into my own Oz work.
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Originally posted by FootsieFan357
I also have an image from a Tarzan book that shows Jane losing her boot, but no stocking is shown. I'm assuming the illustrator was unaware of the fact that she wears stockings.
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Well, to be fair, one of the original animators screwed up as well by forgetting that the black parts of Janes boot were incorporated with the white ones, resulting in the heel pop when she tries to get out of the tree. It's been so long since boots like that were in fashion that the animator must have forgot (same reason cosplayers tend to go with solid brown boots and make white gaiters to put over them, they don't make the original kind anymore*)
*Though I always am a little surprised even Disney does that for the actors for the park. You'd think that, with the money they have, they could afford semi-realistic ones (semi in that they'd probably have to add a hidden zipper or Velcro, as actually buttoning them up would be too time consuming. Plus, they'd have to commission buttonhooks to be made as well.)
Then again, both the Tarzan and Aladdin actors wear sandals (since walking around barefoot in Disneyland or Disney world would not be a good idea.) so maybe they just hope no one will notice.
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Actually, I think the best three single boot pictures of Jane aren't from the movie AT ALL. I no longer remember EXACTYLY where they are (mostly) but they exist.
First, in one of the abridged story versions, there is a picture of Jane introducing Tarzan to her father. That one is particularly good because Jane has her bare foot pointed, as if she WANTS people to look at it (and not in the classic "Daddy, they took my boot!" manner.
The other two are interesting because her boot and stocking are ALL Jane is missing, she still has her hat, both gloves, and her dress is not torn. One of those, again, is in a book, in this case an activity book (you are supposed to circle which of the boots/shoes on the ground is Jane's, she is sitting up in a tree.
The second is the cover of one of the Disney gift Catalogs which shoes Jane and Tarzan swinging. Again, one bare foot, but no other damage (as if she just decided one day to leave one of her feet bare.)
Speaking of Disney, it was MANY years ago (I'm probably talking at least 30) but I remember a Disney activity book my mom had gotten us to keep ourselves busy on the train ride into (or, in fact I think, out of) NYC for one of our trips these, and it had a puzzle where you had to match Disney characters to their shoes, and, for this puzzle, they actually drew all the characters in one shoe. Most were male (I remember Goofy and Pinocchio), but there WERE two girls (Cinderella I think (of course) and Wendy from Peter pan (I remember that one because I didn't think it was fair, due to the fact that 1. Wendy's shoe looked almost identical to Cinderella's and 2. Because she still had on her movie costume of a floor length nightgown, her feet were covered more or less (you might have been able to see a few toes on one foot, but that was it.)
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| Thread: Lois Lane, Shoe Teaser |
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I could do one better. Instead of simply falling off, it could have been hit by the laser shot and destroyed. Or she could have kicked it off deliberately so that the shot it it instead of her leg. Either way, rather than it being a more or less temporary thing (since the moment Superman saw it, he would have retrieved it as well (he IS fast enough) and given it back to her) it could be permanent.
Batman: The Animated series sort of had one as well, since, in the first episode we see Catwoman in, they do a closeup of her kicking off her heels (I think they did so again when the re-did the introduction in the next Batman cartoon iteration.) Plus, I think the girl Harley Quinn kidnapped in Harley's Day Out, wound up losing her shoes as well (white pumps, if I recall).
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There is a NEAR shoe loss/VERY deep dangle in the New Adventures of Superman episode Brave New Metropolis (https://www.b98.tv/video/brave-new-metropolis/ (8:37)
And, of course, there is the bit in one of the later cartoon superman movies where we see Lois take off her high heels to put on sneakers before going out on a story.
And I have vague memories of an episode of the old 1950's Superman where Lois puts on a long robe to disguise herself as a member of a secret society, only to be caught when one of the society looks down and sees her high heels and stockings (which are the old kind with the brown reinforced area at the heel).
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Yeah, I've got a set of those mangas (there MAY be an extra piece that goes along with them, but I have yet to track it down).
Technically there are at least four or five more Oz mangas. There's Captive Hearts of Oz (no shoe losses, unfortunately), A Korean one (which makes it magwah, not manga) Oz the Manga the comic book series (American) Oz the Manga the book (covers Wizard and Land). And if one defines a manga as any Japanese book presented in comic book format, then there are ones going back to the early 1960's, with equal numbers also being printed in China or Korea (though possibly not originating there, both countries have a long track record of taking their editions from other countries and adapting them, or why I'm not totally sure where some of my books were illustrated.)
I usually don't find black and white any easier, unless the artist draws in a VERY strict black and white (i.e. little or no grey or patterned bits).
Plus, since I'm working from a scan, it's not like any of the colors are flat colors; the computer turns each pixel into a whole range of shades. In fact, I can't really DRAW at all and make it look good, I literally have to copy and paste tiny bits of parts of the illustration (usually the stocking) over the shoe to "erase" it. For one of mine, I actually had to re-do the entire leg this way, since the Alice in that was wearing striped stockings, and it turned out that, when drawing the picture Yutaka Ono lost count of the stripes, and put opposing stripes on each side of the shoe strap (which was exactly one stocking stripe wide) as opposed to the same one (so I had to reverse the colors all the way down the rest of the foot.)
And, of course, I've had to scan extra pics for some to get what the character's stocking color actually IS.
I suppose I'm just luck that, when Ono drew shoes, he tended to make the side of the shoe sole follow the exact same curvature as the foot would have if it WASN'T wearing a shoe (so I didn't have to figure out all the up and down curves.)
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Yeah, unless you are a great artist, trying to draw over another image successfully and make it look natural is hard. That why, back when I was doing all those anime book re-does, there were so many limits on which pictures I could actually do. The character needed to be wearing stockings or socks (since I couldn't draw toes) couldn't have on high heels (both because those usually weren't shown with stockings AND they put the foot in a position that would be unnatural if the foot was shoeless*) I couldn't do boots (since the way the artist drew them, they flared out at the top and I couldn't shave the edges down effectively), and so on.
I DID however, have a funny Tarzan scene I would have drawn if I could one in which (after the events of the movie) the little monkey tries to apologize and give Jane her boot back (remember, he was wearing it on his head near the end of the movie) and Jane replying "Yes, that's lovely. Now could you tell me where my stocking went?"
I also was trying for a fanfic (which might have had some single boot time, but I never conclusively decided if it really made sense.) In which Jane makes a passing reference to how far behind modern Fashion she appears to have fallen while in the jungle, given the clothes she is now seeing at Mr. Dumot's trading post (from the TV show).
Actually that show and the TV movies cause a lot of trouble in trying to work out a timeline as to when we are supposed to be. To start with, now that the Disney has confirmed the fan theory that Tazan's parents are the former King and Queen of Arendelle (i.e. Anna and Elsa from Frozen's brother.) That puts the start of the story in the 1850's. Jane dresses more or less Victorian, which one can get away with if you assume that it's the mid late Victorian era (say 1870's or 80's). Up until now, we've okay. But then in a section of the first TV movie, we have Tarzan dealing with someone in an Airplane (which could not exist until 1903) and moreover an airplane of more of a 1920's-30's design. And Tarzan and Jane STILL look the same (even though they'd be in their 60's by now, so they'd be old and Jane's father long since dead.) But I did try for a funny bit about how shocked Jane is when she first sees the "tango shoes" (low heeled pumps popular in the late teens to early 20's) and how they would show her ankles, until remembering that, as she now goes barefoot nearly all the time, everyone can see her ankles anyway!
Anyhow to finish here's a sock hop Cinderella (it's kinda hard to find single saddle shoe pictures.)
[IMG]https://www.pinterest.com/pin/396457573450128742/[/IMG]
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