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Originally posted by Mandrake
That's understood. Thank you for taking the time out to write a description though. It's irritating when you get a vague description and you're curious to seek it out, only to find it wasn't worth the effort. I'm really only interested in shoe loss involving sheer socks, stockings or hosiery of some sort so I like to know before hand. But the more detailed the description the better, this way we know exactly which ones to seek out. |
Tell me about it. Half the books I buy turn out not to be worth it. For every really nice Wizard of Oz illustraion I find, there are three versions where they broke with text and Dorothy still has both shoes (and every now and again, one where she loses both). four where her feet are not shown (long dress, not actually in the picture etc.) five where the illustrator did not illustrate that scene, and eight where the edition has no illustrations at all (that last one really bothers me, you'd think that, when they give the basic information about a book, whether it is illustrated (and by whom) would be of highter priority than how many pages it had or the grade of paper it was printed on (this latter is practically universal in base descriptions of books in China) And it is much the same for other titles. In fact, the same mail delivery today I got the disc in also had a package with a childrens book that might have had a one boot illustration but didn't (I think the person got the volume descriptions mixed up). One just has to take ones chances.
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Originally posted by Mandrake
Thanks for the descriptions. It brought back memories of reading stories like these as a kid. I also found a nice preview of the Aylesworth/McClintock Three Bears book.
http://www.amazon.com/Goldilocks-Three-B...h/dp/0439674069
The art is quite nice in this one. Didn't find much else of the other books you posted. |
Well you have to keep in mind 1. a lot of these books are out of print so, you really are at the mercy of waht ever anyone secondhand is willing to show you 2. Amazon advance looks tend to show the first page or so and no more (they want to show you just enough to make you buy the book, after all)
That being said I did manage to find an online picture of the first 1 shoe eloise pic from the 1st book http://southernstyleandliving.blogspot.com/2010/08/eloise-gets-her-our-suit
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In other news, in the mail today I got a copy of the DVD of the Munsch TV segment of Anglea's Airplane, one of the other munshes besides pig (I got a DVD of that a couple weeks ago(there is I recall one more copy of that left on the Used side of Amazon (you want the volume called 4 stores kids love or something like that) and the episode is as Hunter described it (and no I don't know how to upload the episode to youtube so everyone else can see it, plus with with the way copyright enforcers are cracking down on uploads, I'd be frankly afraid to) I can therfore confirm that that is one that can be skipped; unlike the book, Angela manages to get through the crash with both sneakers.
and to finish off here is a pic from one of my favorite Goldilocks interpretations, Yutaka Ono's version (Japanese) (sorry it's so tiny, but any bigger and Photobucket can't take it) Goldie does not remove her boots in this version alas though actually that in and of itself is a point in the story, I think (I can't read Japanese, but based on the pictures it's pretty obvios that one of the naughty thinks this version of Goldie likes to do is follow up splashing around in mud puddles with jumping on the bed, in her muddy boots
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That, I'm willing to do
Let us start with Goldilocks (I wont bother re-posting the one I already did)
Obligado http://www.amazon.com/Goldilocks-Three-Bears-Golden-Storytime/dp/0307119807
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one of Goldie's brown Mary Jane's falls off when she is in Papa Bears bed (he finds it there) and she runs out without it.
Aylesworth
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Goldilocks-and-Three-Bears-NEW-Jim-Aylesworth-/1807
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Goldie loses one of her oxfords (which have been untied the whole time) as she runs down the stairs and out of the bears house
This one I think http://www.ebay.com/itm/THREE-BEARS-vintage-Whitman-Top-Top-Tales-Carl-Mary
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I think this one is the right one, I may have gotten it confused with another one since I only have the pictures now (often when a book gets to me in such bad condition it is falling apart, I save the pictures I want and get rid of the rest, so I have a lot of pics I really don't remember the source of
if it is correct Goldie loses one of her pointed shoes (which may be leather or wooden, it's hard to tell) when Papa bears chair breaks under her and steps out of one when she is climbing into one of the beds.
Other books worth looking for (I'm going to leave Mother goose collections and the Wizard of Oz out for the moment, since the sheer number of editions of both (especially if, like me, you also collect versions of the latter from other countries) is going to make a list of which do and which do not be more than my wrists can stand typing now.)
The Eloise books, by Kay Thompson. Hillary Knight (the illustrator) in a effort to show just how over the top rambunctios Eloise was, had her literally running or tripping out of one of her Mary Janes in practically every book. The first book has 5 single shoe pictures (though three are part of the same picture series, so that may count as only 1) the second (Eloise in Paris) has 2 (4 if you include her nanny, 5 if you include a very deep dangle on the first page) the third (Eloise at Christmas Time) has 1 (2 if, again you include Nanny) and the fifth (Eloise takes a Bawth) has 1 on the last page. There is also an addional one in Eloise's Guide to life (as the frontspeice of the chapter "How to Dress" and a few in some of the little kid books (though most of those are re-draws of pictures from the "official" books. and ALL of them ae also full of pictures of Eloise with both her shoes off, or with one of her shoe straps popped open.
Sally's Lost Shoe and other Stories
Hunter's photostream already has the two pictures from the single book, but the story was re-collected in The Everyday Story Book and when that was done, it was re-illustrated, so theres a second set.
The Girl who Circumnavigated Fairlyand in a Ship of her own Design. September loses one of her Mary Janes in the very first chapter and is in one shoe for the first half or so of the book (a point which is referenced repeatedly) The book only has one or maybe 2 pictures of this in the actual book, but you can find a fair amount of fanart on Deviantart for this titles. Also as this is a classic, there is a possibility of someone deciding to make a movie or a comic book of it.
that seems good for a start
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Not easily. The problem would be the same as sharing the Ozes, the Little Betty Blues and the rest of my collection, with over a thousand images, I just don't have the energy to scan every one (and lets be honest, given the rabid desire of the people on this site, you would demand everything). Plus, there are one or two that I am not 100% sure I have the legal right to share online, and when I bought them, I did not buy the rights as well.
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Nopperabo I'm pretty sure if Starfire can throw around Cinderblock and other giant robots that hopping on one foot would be nothing. In fact when you think about how strong she is I doubt that Soto (the dog) would've been able to pull of her thigh high boot. Speaking of dogs stealing and chewing shoes is it me or they tend to go after womens shoes more often. And how loose are Raven's boots if one of them came off easily like that after being ejected from BB's mouth that means she could have lost her boot a lot earlier in the series since she's been thrown around a lot further and a lot faster so I'm a little confused on how loose her boot is. Too bad there weren't any close ups on her shoeless foot.
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It isn't really a matter of Starfire's strength. If she was knocked down and Soto grabbed hold of her boot and pulled, there'd be no traction Starfire could use to keep it on (except maybe scrunching her toes, which usually doesn't do much). If she was in a tug of war with Soto, she would win, but on her back or belly, if Soto was reasonably fast, he could have her boot off and be gone before Star could do anything. Remember a key bit of the scenario is star being suprised. Star certinly has the ability to keep from being knocked over by a dog if she is expecting it, but suprise means being caught with your guard down, and therfore without your muscles prepped. A body builder may have no trouble lifting 150 pounds at the Gym, but that does not mean that if, when he wasn't expecting it you tossed a 60 pound weight into his hands, he would neccecarily not drop it or suffer muscle damage. When you are caught off guard, all questions of prep and training go out the window. And Star still assumed that Soto was Beast boy, so she would NOT be expecting him to either jump at her or go after her shoes. And hopping on one foot is tiring regarless of how strong you are. The human (and for the purposes of this argument, Tamaranian will count as 'human") body isn't designed to balace on one foot, that's why we have two with our center of gravity between them. On one your off balace, at that translates to muscle strain. If it was easy, people with hurt feet and broken legs would not need crutches.
As for the womens thing, it's pretty simple. Statistically, womens shoes are more likey to be made of things like patent leather, which is salt cured and thefore tasty to a dog. Also they are often narrower, which is important for small dogs with small mouths. And of course, since a womans shoes are likey to have been more expensive than a man's they are likely to care more when they are destroyed. But belive me, dogs will go after men's shoes with the same abandon, and if they were expensive a man will freak out just as much.
As for the Raven thing, they may not be as loose as all that. given the speed they were spat out at, a lot of things could have pulled her foot out of her boot like getting temporarily caught on or between one of BB's teeth or baleen plates (I can't remember whether BB was a sperm whale or a humpback) . It does not mean they are abnormally loose.
And actually, if there was a time they might have showed Raven's bare feet, that would not have been the episode. If they were going to do it, it would have been either in the episode where Beast boy went feral and attacker her (she was in bed for a lot of the episode, so they could have taken her shoes off then, most people do not sleep in thier shoes) or near the end of the episode where Trigon arrived (Starfire suggested raven joining her in "the painting of the toenails" and Raven agreed, Trigon just showed up before they actually did it.)
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Speaking of Starfire's boot being ruined when she finds boot it all slobbery but she puts it back on just like that, I'm a little surprised that the dog didn't bury underground. It's like when Raven 's boot gets stuck in Beast Boys mouth she doesn't seem the least disgusted by that. I wonder how long Starfire spent in one boot while looking for Beast Boy It would have been funny watching her hoping around the city in one boot, Iswear she gets the least screen time devoted to her in fact she's the only character who hasn't got a season devoted to her. I wonder if Starfire or Raven have lost a boot before? |
Well, she herself had just been in his mouth; I can't imagine she could have found her boot any more disgusting than she herself was at that point. I tedn to think the starfier chase was brief; she was in the partk when she was chasing the dog, and she was still in the part when she found her boot (not to mention hopping like that for a long time would be tiring) As for burying it it may have been too soon. And as for putting it back on 1. She was in a hurry and 2. It may have only been slobbery on the outside (if the dog dropped it the inside may be totally dry) Starfier boots look like rubber or vinyl, not leather(you note she still wore them in the snow in Russia so they are presumably waterproof and therfore slobber proof if not chewed on). Ditto raven, if she lost her boot being ejected from BB's mouth it may not have had time to get wet inside.
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I just thought of something how did that alien dog manage to steal Starfire's boot in the first place in that Teen Titan episode "Every Dog Has It's Day"
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Presumably, it knocked her down and pulled it off before she could stop it.
What I never figured out was why she needed to hop. At the time , she thought it was Beast boy, so she would have no reason not to fly. It's true that Starfire's powers(inculding flight) are emotion driven, but it Star is so sensitive that even the fear that she had offended Beast Boy was enough to make flight impossible, she'd be permanently grounded. And if the idea is that somehow Starfire's flight ability is in her boots (like, the soles have antigravity platforms) then how could she have flown in the episdoe with the cruise ship, when she was wearing pumps (actually that episdoe has a second question, how could Robin and starfie have had the normal shoes when they tore off their formal wear. their clothes they could have had on under their formals, but both of them have shoes that would be too big (not to mention that in starfires case, since she was wearing pumps, we could see the tops of her feet and her legs, so she couldn't have been hiding her boots)
Speaking of TT and footwear, I realized there is a sort of missing shoe removal scene, that is, one that logically shoud be there, but isn't. It's near the end of the episode on the alien planet, where we see raven surrounded by the little creatures that seem to be worhipping her, one of whom appears to be giving her a foot massage. Who gets a foot massage with thier shoes on? Even given the possibly thin nature of Raven's footwear (I've always sort of assumed that, given thier appearance, Raven's boots are in the Medeival mode of shoe design, where shoes are more like leather socks without seperate soles and heels) that seems like a waste of time. Unless it isn't a foot massage and what it looks like is the truth; that one of the creatures is so in love with her it is dry humping her boot!
Tencically Starfiers boots should be ruined when she gets out of the crysalis as well.
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Yep, I see that cell, too. Never saw an actual episode of the series, so it might have happened; not sure.
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The fact that you too have seen the cell probably means it was produced as an art print, since, unless you live(or lived) WAAY closer to me than I think you do, the copy you saw and the copy I saw would almost assuredly have to be two different copies, and while an actual animated series would probably have made 100-150 or so to cover such a scene (carttons usually run at 12 frames per second, and a scene like that would probably last 2-3 seconds) the odds of more than a few surviving (even give the number of times Underdog was re-cut for syndication, which means they had all of the stuff on file somewhere)for a minor scene. |
Nope, I saw it on Google.
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Odd I seem to reacall the one I saw was a little different
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Yep, I see that cell, too. Never saw an actual episode of the series, so it might have happened; not sure.
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The fact that you too have seen the cell probably means it was produced as an art print, since, unless you live(or lived) WAAY closer to me than I think you do, the copy you saw and the copy I saw would almost assuredly have to be two different copies, and while an actual animated series would probably have made 100-150 or so to cover such a scene (carttons usually run at 12 frames per second, and a scene like that would probably last 2-3 seconds) the odds of more than a few surviving (even give the number of times Underdog was re-cut for syndication, which means they had all of the stuff on file somewhere)for a minor scene.
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While watching cartoons yesterday, I came up with another candidate; Jaheera from Tai Chi Chasers. Her losing one or both shoes is rather unlikey when you consider that her footwear is basically a high heeled version of greaves and sabots (i.e. the leg and foot parts of a suit of armor) and are probably very firmly secured. But I can think of a few funny ways she could be forced to remove them. Say if in a battle on something metal (a ship, a platform etc.) one of the good guys used the symbol for magnet (with 1000 symbols, it's probably in there) to magnetize the deck leaving her stuck to the floor unable to move without taking her boots off. as a follow up (say if she kept chasing them) you could get her out of the way by someone combing "thorn" and "iron" (if fire+strong=explosion then I am guessing that "thorn"+"iron" would = caltrop) and littering the ground making it impassible for an unshod person.
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Am I the only guy who wanted her to spend most of the movie in one boot. She seemed so focused on the apes and Tarzan at the time I think she wouldn't have removed it. |
As focused as she was on the gorillas and Tarzan, since she was not with him 24/7, I'm pretty sure she would have anyway. Remember what I said, walking around in one heel is hard. In fact I think the little incident with the baboons is what in the movie makes her come to realize how impractical the clothes she was wearing are for the jungle. Remember in for most of the rest of the movie she is not only barefoot (and remember this (at least in the Disney version) is the Victorian Era, a lady walking around barefoot in public would be roughly equivalent to one walking around topless in ours) but dressed in what, in the Victorian era would be considered her underwear. And Jane is shown to not let dictates of fashion get in the way of practical neccecity (In an episode of one of the TV series she tears the skirts off her dress and breaks the heels off her boots (as well as doing the same to her friends, in order to make it easier to walk)) Actually, probably the real supriise in the movie is that, when she does get dressed up again, she happend to have broght a second pair of boots with her that are identical to the first ones (remember the little monkey still has the one she lost)
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Yeah your right. Even if you take away the legal issues and the risk of injuries I doubt that they'll have their employees working in one shoe but I wonder if a Cinderella cosplayer is allowed to take off one shoe if there asked to do this for a photo. I've checked on the internet and there are few one shoed cosplayer cinderella pics and only one one booted Jane pic. |
Cinderella I don't know, but as for a Jane (assuming there are any wandering cosplayers) depending on how accurate the costume is, it may actually be impossible. Jane wears high button shoes, and those thing are a *&^%$#( to put on at take off. For one thing, you need a buttonhook to do or undo them (if you look carefully at the scene in the actual movie, before Jane's boot falls off, the baboon has to claw the buttons open (or off) as long as those buttons are closed those boots will NEVER come off (back then, it was fasionable to have feet as small as possible, so those boots were worn TIGHT.) Most modern players use "fake out" models (where the buttons are non-functional, and there are hidden zippers to actually open and close the boots) since buttonhooks are no longer made. And cosplayers usually put fake white tops on plain brown pull on and off boots. But Disney may acutally be anal enough to have hooks custom made and require their performers to wear accurate ones (Disney became semil infamous a while back for requiring their performers to even wear special underwear with thier costumes, and not being too careful about keeping them hygenically laundered.)
BTW someone pointed out something funny to me to me once with regards to Jane's boots in the movie. If you look closely in the scene where she is pushing against the tree (just before the rainstorm) the brown part of her remaining boot pops off of the white part, as if it is an ordinary pump (evidently one of the animators was unfamiliar with high button shoes, and did not realize that the brown and white pieces are permanently attached.
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Cool, nice find. I wonder if there are any pics of other cosplayers in Disneyland like that, I'm a little surprised there isn't at least one pic of a one-shoed Cinderella or Jane cosplayer in Disneyland.
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I think there actually might be some legal impediments to that happening (or at least, on it happening on purpose). As clean as Disneyland/World is, it's still not a place one would want to walk around unshod or even partially unshod through, too many stones, too much risk of broken glass on the ground. And I'm fairly sure that injuries caused by stepping on broken glass in an amusement part due to the fact that your employers require your foot/feet to unshod is legal grounds for suing and serios severence pay. It's pertty much the same basis as to the fact that a lot of children's schools.community groups who have Haloween parades or Mother Goose Pagent's (popular in a lot of the British world) specifically prohibit students dressing up as Little Betty Blue (or at least, Little Betty Blue in a one shod state) The risk of a girl stepping on a sharp stone or broken bottle is more than their liability insurance can cover. In the Disney case, you also have to factor in the fact that both Cinderella and Jane Porter have costumes that involve high heels. Walking around in one high heel for a short period can cause a significant amount of heel strain; doing it on a regular long term basis would likey result in permanent (and again, sueable) muscle damage. In point of fact, they cut the boot loss scene out of the Broadway version of Tarzan possibly for this reason ( a friend of mine who worked in theatre told me that, in a lot of productions that do involve some degree of one heel coreography (Pirates of Penzance, She Loves Me, Thouroghly Modern Mille etc.) where which shoe is not specified the cast is encouraged to rotate which shoe they have on from performace to performace, to keep strain on each calf muscle roughly equal.)
Okay one more
Miyuki Chan in Wonderland.
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While there are no shoe losses/single shoe pics in the anime movie itself, there are a lot of them (4-5) in the Clamp manga comic it was based on. The English language manga book sized one has most of them, one should seek out the original Japanese Grpahic Novel sized one for two reasons 1. Unlike the book versionm that version has a lot of the pictures in Color and 2. probably the best shoe loss picture (of Miyuki falling through the sky, losing one of her penny loafers in the process) is not present in the English version.
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I think that there's another episode where she and another woman are put in a situation like that to escape.
Burst Angel: There's no shoe loss from what I remember in the anime but on the box art of the dvd case Meg is missing her boot for no particular reason except maybe for fanservice.
http://www.ed-wood.net/burst-angel.jpg
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For a while, I sort of assumed that they might make the 1 booted Meg into an anime model (hey they did it with one of the Hanekawa Tsubasa 1 shoe images), but as of yet, to my knoweldge, no such figure exists.)
This brings me to a rather odd one. It concerns the short run anime, Haunted Junction, which I always had had a soft spot for, if for no other reason than it is thebest example I know of to point to when describing a Shouta complex (the female version of a Lolita Complex). There are no shoe losses in the actual anime, though one of the ghosts, Toilet Hanakao, goes around shoeless something like 95% of the time, with no real explananation of exactly why, given that she is otherwise wearing a perfectly full (if a little tight) school uniform, she isn't wearing any shoes (my personal guess is as follows; the character description that comes along with the show if you buy the complete series is says that she died "tragically" What I interpret this to mean is that she comitted suicide, probably by jumping and like any polite Japanese girl, she took her shoes off before climbing over the railing, so as to not mess it up (I've seen that done in a LOT of animes) However the ending theme song contains the verse "The sun was warm, but part of me still wanted to be unsure, so I took off just one of my shoes" A little later while trolling along the internet I discovered that 1. they made an anime mode of Mustuki; the lead female character (though based on her apperance in the comic not the anime) and 2. they made it as a 1 shoe model (a tribute to the ending song?) I mamaged to find a link to a picture of the standard blue model, there is also a limtied edion red model (which also reverses the color of the shoes and socks)'
http://www.entertainmentearth.com/item_archive/items/Mutsuki_16_Scale_Statu
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I always though that was odd as well, especially because all of the things that could have caused her to lose/remove her boots have already been passed by that point (the tides in the sewers, them being too hard to walk in).
I have no video at present, but I seem to recall seeing a musical tribute to Kimagure Orange Road on youtube (that I cannot currently find) that seems to indicate that the show is simply rife with shoe losses (as evidenced by the fact that the clips managed to show the main femaile losing or missing a shoe in no less than three outfits (and shoe styles). For at least one of them, I also seem to recall someone got a hold of one of the cels and put an image of it online.
Who Framed Rodger Rabbit- In the following cut scene from the film, Jessica Rabbit is in one shoe. Sorry about the really crappy video, but as far as I can tell, this is the only copy on Youtube (1:04) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai0dYPkE2bQ
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Since I've been watching WAAY to many cartoons recently. I'd like to propose a candidate which would be more amusing than alluring; Kitty Katswell from T.U.F.F. Puppy. We actually have seen her sans boots three or four times, but she has never actually lost one (well, unless you count having them stolen off her feet in one episode). but, oddly (given how often she's been blown up and otherwise mangled and her other clothes have certainly taken the abuse, she's never had one of her boots actually blown off or otherwise destroyed. There was even one episodes where her boot actually got chewed on, and it suffered no real damage (equally odd was the fact that despite the fact her foot was in it, she appeared to suffer no pain from having her partner chomp on her foot). Actually she might look really weird with one boot, since she suffers from the anime trait I nicknamed the "daisy duck syndrome", where a character's feet are revealed to be LUDICROUSLY larger than thier shoes. It doesn't look that odd with them both on or both off (after all we expect cartoon animals to have big feet), but one and one would probably look really weird. |
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"The Curse of King Mutt"
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