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Originally posted by omega
Thanks for answering that Mandrake.
Sophie Casterwill - Huntik: I haven't watched much of the show but from what little I've see of it I've understood that it seems to be an amalgam of Indiana Jones and Pokemon. And if you look closely at her sneakers you could see that it is not tightly laced so she could just maybe lose one of her precious sneakers to a booby trap.
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20...6/6d/Sophie.jpg |
Well, she did have a few barefoot scenes in the show (when she was in a karate gi mostly.
Actually, a shoe loss for her could be inegral to the future plot, since Sophie has another mystery on her legs. If you look at the picture, you'll notice that one of her socks is pulled up over her knee, and the other droops. the thing is, that is always how they are in the series, and it's always the same one, you NEVER see her other knee. Since her orgin is a bit of a mystery, I'm wondering if there might be something significant on her other knee (a tatoo, a birthmark etc.) so I can imagine that a shoe loss might be significant, since if she hurts her leg in the process, the others might try and tend to it, and in the process, pull down her stocking, revealing the hidden mark.
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Originally posted by potk
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Originally posted by omega
I wonder if there are guys out there in japan with a similar fetish as us there probably are but in fewer number than in western countries. There are manga's about nearly everything except shoe loss fetishism which is something I'd love to see that. Maybe something like the Nylondon comics in manga style. |
That'd be nice; maybe someday... 
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You'd think so, but based on what I have seen, there doesn't seem to be. I think part of the problem is that since, in Japanese culture, people take off thier shoes anyway under so many circunstances, it's just part of normal life, and therfore it's a little hard to get a good fetish base up. It'd be a bit like trying to sell a breast fetish comic in a tribe where the women go around topless daily anyway, or trying to sell a manga today that focused on an ear fetish (quite common in the Medival period) In one of the Japanese manga series I check on, there are maybe 20-30 volumes with shoe loss/removal/single shoe pictures. That sound like a lot, until you consider that that series currently has something like 2200 volumes were talking about all comics by a publisher, not of a single storyline. And no, sorry, I don't remember which 20-30 they were.
That being said, there is hope. The sheer causalness of shoe removal in Japan means that there is ample stuff in anime if you look hard enough (the fact that danbooru even has a tag line for single shoe is ample proof of that). Throwing thier shoe is a pretty common manga trope for girls to indicate their displeasure. And the fact that, in Japanese culture, it is considered better if you take your shoes off and put them on without using your hands (since the whole point is that they are dirty), a lot of anime characters wear thier shoes loose, and losses due to tripping are common. The fact shoes are considered dirty also means that a fair number of Japanese people (and by extension Japanese anime and manga characters) will leave thier shoe on the ground if raisng up thier leg/foot (say, while sitting).
Finally there is in fact a genre where single shoe pictures are fairly common; the area of "pillow friends" (those life size anime pillow cases that are sold to be put on human size pillows.) single shoe pictures are pretty common on the "cleaner" side of those (the side where the characters still have most of thier clothes). A trip around ebay, or danbooru (look for paired long narrow pictures, side by side) will yield many (I'd post a few, but I have a policy of not posting or linking any picture that might be NSFW or inappropritae for viewing by casual observers) For those confined to translated manga, I seem to recall Sgt. Frog being rich in shoe loss pics, I think there was one in most of the volumes between 5-10).
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Originally posted by omega
Oh yeah speaking of asian fetishism what is up with korean dramas and shoe loss/removal it's not that I don't like it just that I haven't seen these sort of thing pop up so frequently in any form of media. Any ideas why? |
Given how often it happens in dramas, I think that it's most likely a metaphor for something than it is fetishism (although it can be both), or have to do with fortunes/luck. [/quote]
Sorta. Korea is really culturally into western fairy tales, so there are a lot of cinderella based plots and red shoe based plots in Korean drama. Koreans also take thier shoes off when they go inside. And yes shoe removal does have a bit to do with fortunes. your shoes are considered a metaphor for you life (they are what you walk the path of life on), change, remove them and you change yours.
Shoe removal/ Single shoe pictures have meant different things in different cultures. To the ancient greeks one sandal on and one sandal off sybolized "death or glory", your last no retreat battle (remember Jason and the Argonauts) in a lot of Medival and Rennesaince art, the removal of shoes indicated that sometihng sacred was going on. In the colonial period, painting a portrait of a child with one shoe on indicated said child was desceased and the picture was being done postumously (it represented a return to the natural state). This extended to the early phograph days; if you see an old photo of a little kid posed with one shoe on, it's probably a composite of a child who died, with a old photo of the kid placed on a stock body (if you see one of a child who looks like he's sleeping with one shoe off, that may actually be an autopsy photo saved by the parents. The Victorians were weird like that. Illustrations from this period often use it just to indicate innocence. In a lot of art, shoe dangling/removal indicates the woman is getting confortable, and possibly the opening overtures of sexual congress (or why it's so common on the "pillow friends_.
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Originally posted by Mandrake
Cool, I'd like to read your stories, Nop. Are they available to read anywhere? |
Not at the moment. When I said "my wrists tire easily" I meant it; more than five or so minutes if hard typing and I'm basically useless for weeks (and when I have ideas, them tend to go flowing for a long time). Add on that I tend to type so fast that the amount of spelling and grammar errors become a serios problem, go back and correct them and I lose the flow of my thoughts, don't and I have no idea what I was trying to say when I come back. At some point I shoudl probably really get myself something like Dragon, that would solve a lot of problems. Plus I tend to write myself into serios corners. Actually I tend to write myself into the exact same corner, I tend to end up writing the same character into every story, the villain who is completely ommnipotent and utterly evil (and that's thier primary quality), the stories tend to sort of peter out from there. I suppose the most complete bit I've gotten is the bit in my Guide to the Lands; If I can remember which datastick I have it on, I'll try and send it to you.
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Found it. If the text seems a little brief and stilted, bear in mind the work it comes from is not a story so much as a sort of travel guide to the world I was working on (and yes this is the only shoe related bit in there)
SHOES, customs and superstitions
As with prectically every other human culture knows numerous superstions and customs invoving shoes may be found amongs the people of the Stattered Lands. One of the best reasearched are the varios ritulalistic uses of shoes amoung the Dagandi of the Southern, more temperate climes. In this area it one of the most fundamental rituals is the “sending of graceâ€, which consists of lighting a fire of holy wood on the temples altar in which is burnt the right shoe of each unmarried daughter of the family invovled in the ritual. The ashes of this fire are belived to be imbued with grace and are a key part of further portions of the ceremoinies in which the rite is carried out. Custom dictates that the girls participating in the ritual therafter wear no shoe on thier right foot (but to still have thier left foot shod) until such time as a new part of shoes is cobbled for them, which by custon cannnot take place until at least the next full moon after the performace of the ceremony (unless a further performace of the ceremony is slated to ocur for the family before this time has elapsed) Since this ritual is performed for weddings (the couples union being consumated by having the sacred ashes thrown on them) births (the new baby is annointed in water containg the ashes). Funerals (the ashes are poured upon the deceased just before the coffin is closed) and the building a of a new house or other structure (the ashes being mixed into the mortar) it is hardly unusual for a young maiden's wedding to be the very first time that she actaully wears two shoes for any extended period of time. As a final note it is intersting to notice that the Nortern Asrild do not practice the ritual; though they retain paractically all other relegous customs of the Dagani from whom the descend (in Asrild tradion the holy ashes derive from the wood alone). Climate is probably the reason for the loss of this custom(the Nothern areas having very severe winters), this theory being borne out by legends to the efect that when the Asrild first settled in the lands north a demon came which chilled them and soon cause the maiden's right feet to blacken and die (a rather garbleds account of severe frostbite most likely)
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Only the one I have mentioned, make sure it is logical and organic to the story. Don't just "shoehorn" (pardon the pun) the loss in. Avoid re-hashes of Cinderella; they're trite and usually require a level of suspension of disbelif that is hard to pull off (doing versions with ordinary shoes falls into the trap of the fact that there are thousands of people with the same foot size, and probably dozens of pairs of shoes that look just like those, so the "only one girl can fit the slipper" concept loses credibility . Consider the type of shoe versus the form of loss (don't have a character tripping out of a calf length skin tight boot, it does not happen). Skip the "took off her shoe to throw it at someone or something" trope, again, it's been over used. If the shoes in question are high heeled, do NOT set it up so that the character, after losing one, decides to keep the other one on, that basically makes no sense.
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Originally posted by omega
Apart from the fanfic of Bleach where Orihime loses her shoe have you ever written a story with shoe loss.
Edit: Anyone find the design for the model Lola a bit weird since she's got one boot. I wonder how she could lose one of those boots in the first place or did she only have one to begin with. |
What model?
As for the story question, several (though as I am a very lazy writer, whose wrist tire easily, Im not sure if they are any finished ones. There'd probably be more but I am pretty strict about my writing rules, I will only put in a shoe loss if it makes logical sense in the story and can be put to interesting use. To do otherwise I consider bad writing, done for no other purpose than to satisfy desire, which I consider unacceptable (it's sorta like the difference between erotica and porn). The Orihime one I did in part becuse I though it would be a funny scene to see Captain Saijin suddenly start acting like a dog agaist his character (there's a series of great fanarts on Deviant exploring exactly this issue, showing Saijin doing things like playing fetch, using a fire hydrant etc). In others; in one of my Oz stories, Dorothy loses one of her Mary Janes (actually has it dissolve off her foot) as a result of stepping into a kind of magic grass planted around a village which was there to repel a kind of grain eating bird moster (which happens to have leather for skin) which is of some small sigificance to the plot (due to what that particular pair of shoes symbolized to Dorothy). my "Regenesis" PPG fic has a bit near the beginning where Buttercup loses one of her shoes (along with her tight leg) escaping from a mechanical monster (oh and sorry Omega (and Mandrake) she'd only semil shod for maybe half a chapter, she gets a new set of tights and a pair of sneakers by the beginning of the next one.) And while there are no actual one shoe scenes in it, one of my Inuyasha fanfics involves a few scenes where it becomes apparant that Inuyahsa has chewed up pairs of Kagome's shoes on more than one occasion).
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Originally posted by potk
I remember in an episode of the Disney show The Buzz on Maggie that she gets de-shoed by someone and her bare foot is showing. |
It was a nerdy butterfly; she did it to see Maggie's adhesive foot soles. There is also and episode where Maggie's granmother gets one of her pumps knocked off when she is tackled by protesters outside Maggie's house.
PB&J otter had a few as well. Jelly used a "magic" mirror to find one of Butter's missing shoes. Jelly also took off her own shoes in one epsode (before jumping in the water to wash off some makeup and put her brother's on in another (it was early in the moring and she wasn't paying attention). There is also an episode where she takes one of her saddle shoes off becuse she realized the reason her foot has been hurting is that her brother's marble fell in her shoe.
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Originally posted by omega
I actually don't remember a loss in Replacements.
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There actually is one, sort of. It was in the very, very last episode (the one where you find out the identity of the Fleemco representative). As part of breaking into the Fleemco HQ one of the girls. (the Japanese one with the battle armor) takes on some guards. Whne you see her afterward her armor is wrecked, and that includes one of the legs missing, so you see her bare foot.
I seem to recall Pepper Ann having at least 4. I remeber Pepper herself coming back from some sort of ski realated adventure with a broken ski boot one one foot and only a sock on the other. I also seem to recall her losing one of her sneakers in one episode, but don't remember which. I seem to recall and episode where moose took off one of her sneakers for some reason. Finally there was an episode where they tried to cure the blonde girl of her fear of swans by having her climb into a swan enclosure and then get involved in an argument (which keeps them from noticing her cires for help) when she finally manages to climb out of the enclosure, one of her loafers is missing.
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Originally posted by omega
I think that if anyone is going to lose a shoe they'll probably be in their casual clothes I guess. Maybe they'll get ambushed and kidnapped and lose a shoe in process maybe Bane knows not only Bruce Wayne's identity but Barbra Gordon's too in this continuity. |
Even if he did, Barbara Gordon/Batgirl may not even exist in this continutiy, or be too old to be a member of YJ (If this is the second robin, and he is as old as he looks, Gordon would be out of colledge by now). As for an ambush loss, who and how? MM's as noted earlier very well may not have clothes that are removable. Artemis wears boots casually (tough to lose). We havent seen much of Zatarra's casual wardrobe, but I think she wears high boots as well. So your limted to the classic 4. 1. Bad Guy grabs heroine by ankle, heroine sheds footwear to escape 2. Poision ivy attack with something viny (this is basically 1 with a plant insead of a bad guy) 3. Heroine sprains ankle and possibly 4. heroine kicks footwear off in order to do something (hit switch on wall, knock out bad guy, free her toes up to do something that her hands cant because they are tied up etc.) I appluat you enthusiasm, but it might be best to simply sit back and wait and see. If it does happen, you can be pleasantly surpised, and if it doesn't (more likely) you'll have save yourself months of tension and agita. The hunt would not be nearly as fun if it was easy. As Rene Descartes said (I think) "It is not good for a man to get everything he wants"
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keep an eye on this artist
http://hwilki65.deviantart.com/#/d4sf9q8
If this person is comitted to illustrating the whole book, there is a chance of there being a shoe loss picture being posted by her in a few weeks, when she gets to the Wicked Witch (which is chapter 12). I can confirm this as I have no idea which version of the story or scenes the artist is planning (back when I was in correspondance with her, she intimated that they were going with a variation of the Cinar cartoon version of the scen (which would have a shoe removal, but she has changed her style depiction of Oz on an almost weekly basis since then, so what she is planning now I have no idea (as of the last WWW sketch sheet, it looked like she was basing on Hauge, which does NOT have a shoe loss illustration, but she may change back again). She seems to be getting through a chapter ever other day or so, so we probably do not have long to wait.
I've been corresponding with this person for a while
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Originally posted by omega
Looks like Megan's ain't gonna have heels anymore but not a new costume either. Sorry for the spoilers but check for yourself. Haven't seen Zatanna's new look so maybe she might ditch her boots and go for high heeled shoes but there's a low chance of that happening since Philip Bourassa seems to be designing more practical costumes so it isn't likely but as a YJ fan I like the new designs I see and I'm really excited for Invasion and who's to say there won't be any shoe loss this is fiction and it's not like we haven't seen a girl lose a shoe in an improbable way and we don't know what Greg Weisman has planned in the script.
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I'm not sure we can count Me'gann's heels out quite yet. That costume looks an awful lot like her "stealth suit"; the costume she already wears when the mission invloves concealment, which was always flat. They may have simply used a clip cell of her in it. Since so far the majority of the missions have involved one or another "stealth mission" (there are multiple forms, yesterdays episode had them suiting up "polar stealth") if they picked a random base the odds of it being in her stealth uniform are actually more likely. There is also the possibility of them using it because MM's is going to use that costume for the duration of the arc then go back to her old one. If the arc invovles the YJ tean being on constant call, I can easily see MM deciding to make the stealth version her default for the moment. BTW to make things sourer, yesterdays episode gave us a clue as to what Zatarra's stealth is going to look like, and it looks like that is going to be flat too, assuming her polar is typical (it might not, it sorta just looked like she had put on a parka and dressed herself as a person going out into cold weather would) . And we still might have a chance with Artemis (her superhero costume may be flat, but she does wear heeled boots as part of her casual clothes)
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Originally posted by Mandrake
Here's one I remember from many years ago, but unfortunately haven't been able to find since. (Maybe someone here will).
It's a Thomas the Tank Engine popup book of all things. I remember seeing it in one of those Cost Co. type wholesale stores almost 20 years ago. I was paging through the book when I came upon a two page popup spread of Thomas crashing through someone's house. A young woman in stockings is sitting in a chair and when Thomas crashes through she falls back kicking her shoes off in the process. I remembered loving that page as a teenager, and I probably would have bought the book if it was today. But I was a teenager and felt too embarrassed to be buying a Thomas book, especially since I was with my mother. I can't remember the title book or the author/illustrator so it's been very hard to find since then. |
I can sympathize. Remember back in the Goldilocks discussion where I said there were "two more I know of" Well, BOTH of those were cases where I could have bought them, but felt embarrassed to do so because I was with one of my parents. And I haven't seen either since despite combing ebay twice a day. I't a long shot, but you cou'd plug "Thomas the Tank Engine" +books into something like google or bing, switch it over to images and then surf down and hope that 1. someone posted a picture of the cover of that book and 2. you recognize it when you see it.)
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A few more off the top of my head
6Teen- Don't remember which episode, but there was a scene in one of them where, to get the sporty girl out of the store she works at, two of the guys dress as paramedics, and put her on a gurney, which they then proceed to accidently knock down the mall's escalator. When you see the path if destruction, you first see one of the girl's tennis sneakers on the ground and then her caught in a cactus, sans one shoe. I also seem to recall one episode where, for some reason, she took off both her sneakers, and then lost them, and was walking around in socks for the rest of the episode.
Atomic Betty- There is one shoe loss in this show, and it's a pretty poor one. It occurs near the end of one of the episodes where Betty and her band have just won the talent show. Regeena trips and falls off the stage, When she hits one of her shoes flies off (you don't see her, but you see her shoe fly back up into the shot temporarily). That, to my knowledge is the only shoe loss in the whole shoe. Actually, the animators seem to have had a real problem with showing Betty without her shoes, as they drew here wearing them even in cases where she probably wouldn't (like when she is in bed). They even went so far as to remove the one cases when she should have been shoeless as part of the plot. In the episode "If the Shoe Fits" according to the rules of the episode, all delegates, as a mark of respect, are supposed to enter the conference with thier shoes in a box. However, in the actual scene, it is patently obvios Betty has simply put a pair of socks on over her boots (my guess is that they did this because the realized that betty has the problem with all characters who wear thigh boots and miniskirts; take the boots off and the character looks really naked.)
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Originally posted by Mandrake
Looks like the disney fairies lose their shoes in this graphic novel:
http://www.amazon.com/Disney-Fairies-Gra...31021362&sr=8-1
Five stories featuring Tinker Bell and the rest of the Fairies of Pixie Hollow! In "The Lost Fairy" Tinker Bell and Prilla search for one of their missing friends while "The Wings of Rani" sees the only wingless fairy, Rani, strive to save her friend Beck from a huge waterfall. "The Most Beautiful Dress" pits Beck, Vidia and Prilla against each other in a dress contest, leaving Tinker Bell to keep the competition from getting out of hand. Beck learns the true value of friends in "The Color of Friendship", and lastly all of the Fairies find themselves looking a bit silly when Queen Clarion accidentally looses her shoes, leading all the Fairies to do the same, thinking it’s the newest fashion trend! A collection of warm and funny stories starring Tinker Bell and friends.
Haven't read it so I don't know much else, but I'm sure it's worth checking out. |
I did get a copy, don't bother. The losing occurs off screen and it's not a losing while wearing, it's a losing as in misplacing. There are no scenes of the fairues taking off thier shoes, the just go from being fully shod to being barefoot There is one very brief scene of the queen removing her shoes (very basic pink flats) near the end, and that really only consists of a heel pop. That's it. I can see the book might be of interest to someone who likes to see fairies barefootm but not really to shoe loss lovers.
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Originally posted by Nopperabo
With regards to Miss Martian, however nice it would be, I'd say it's actually rather unlikey she will ever lose a one of her boots, for several reasons. First, i seem to recall a bit in one of the early episodes where she said that her clothes are basically a sort of projection (which is why they can change when she changes). When she changes clothes, as far as I can tell she basically just wills them to change. So her losing one of her shoes may very well be impossible as they don't really exist as seperate entities. I suppose she could change her clothes to make it look like she was missing a shoe, but I cannot think of a lot of circumstances where that would happen (In fact, I can think of only one, being caught in some sort of disaster that no one could get out of without being hurt, and making herself look "beat up" to cover the fact that she, as a superhero, is uninjured). Even if it did happen, statistically the odds of her losting one of her blue boots is pretty low, as she doesn't actually wear them all that often. Young Justice is a product of the modern cartoon tradtion, and they really are trying to eliminate the "combat stiletto" trope (even Black Canary wears flat soled boots in this version). They even sort of lampshaded the fact they were doing this in one episode, in the Haloween one, Zatara (or is it Zatanna, I always get confused which is the guy and which is the girl) cast a spell to make her boots flat soled, so she can run better (I wonder if, come the next season, we'll discover she's made that change permanent). So if you noticed, MM doesn't wear her "dress costume" most of the time. around the cave, she's usually in her school clothes. And the moment they go out on a mission, she tends to switch to her "stealth" costume, which also features flat boots. So it's not that likey, in my opinion |
Well, Zatanna was in the episdoe they showed today, and it looks like she's gone back to the heels (since she could dissolve them at will, I don't find this particularly suprising). Actually todays episode was a triple heel one; it's the first time Miss Martian has gone on a mission in her REGULAR superhero outfit (with the heeled boots) and when Zatanna become a feminized version of Dr. Fate, her boots still have heels (in fact, I thik they get a bit higher than the ones on her normal coustume).
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Another one
http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/1107531/1girl-ass-backpack-bag-blush_st
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While I am posting this, I strongly suspect this is not a true 1 shoe picture, but rather an example of what I call "foot fade". In some anime styles, when you want to show that one leg is further back in the picture than the other, you remove all detail from the leg (like the shoe). But if you look close, the shape of the shod foot and unshod foot are the same, so they are probably both shod (in cases where the shoes are heeled, it's easy to tell)
a couple other examples
http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/1067965/black_hair-dragon_tail-eyebrows
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http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/1075169/1girl-backpack-bag-bakemonogata
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the last one is actually a little more ambiguous as there are literally TONS of images of this character actually missing one of her shoes, including a model that is or at least can be made to (a lot of times, when an anime model is desigent to have a shoe that dangles, they make the shoe as a seperate peice, but one that can balace on the shoeless foot, and leave it up to the displayer to decide if they want to have it dangling or off completely.)
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