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Originally posted by Mandrake
It's interesting that you mention this. I remember, I was watching the disney movie tarzan. Everyone here knows about the scene where she loses her boot and stocking (1:45).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQWyJ6irNMo
(I always wished she would have kept her stocking on in that scene. Oh well.)
But later on, when she's trying to climb off the tree, you can see her remaining boot "heel poppling" as if the black high heeled part of her boot is separating from the rest of her boot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfKS2iGeIxw
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as it almost looks as though the black high heeled section of her boot is a seperate shoe that she wears over her boot. I wonder if those type of boots were actually designed like that. |
I can confirm they were not. Two tone boots like that were a fairly popular fashion item of the time. the black patent bottom was sewn onto the lighter upper (which could be kidskin, regular leather, or cloth depedning on the make) take the bottom off and you basically have a collar with your foot poking out the bottom. I've awalys interpreted that scene as indicating that her other boot is now wrecked (or more likely that one of the animators wasn't familiar with how boots like that were constructed) . A similar effect was also sometimes gotten by wearing white spats over black boots (and indeed that is how the people at the Disney parks do it, as boots like that are no longer commonly made) , but it is fairly obvios Jane isn't doing that, you can see the inside of the boot she lost, and it is fairly obvios that is is an actual two tone boot (not to mention that, if they were just spats, she wouldn't have lost the boot in the first place, just the spat which would have simply pulled off. And of course there is the fact the monkey is able to balance the boot on his head shows the black part isn't seperate (if it was, it would fall off with no foot to hold it in place)
As I said before, the really odd thing is that she chose to wear boots like that to the jungle in he first place. Leaving aside the logic of wearing heels in the jungle, that kind of boot requires a buttonhook to put it on and take if off (the only reason the baboon was able to get it off is that he actually clawed the buttons on the side open) and then there is the matter of what to do if the buttons pop off (happened all the time) with laced boots, break a lace and you can thread in a new on replace it with a piece of string or a ribbon (both fairly common). Break off the buttons and you need replacement buttons, a special kind of hevy duty thread and special kind of needle etc.
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Another anime one to consider Akemi Homura from Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. There technically is already one of her losing one of her loafers while in her school clothes (I don't have a link, but someone on one of the other (non-shoe loss) forums I frequent uses it as part of his signiature) However what I was thinking of was one in her magical girl costume. Though I admit the main reason I'd like to see that is to see how the animators could pull it off since Homura wears what I call, for lack of a better word, "bootyhose" i.e. stockings/pantyhose that appear to have soles and heels built into them (If anyone remembers Seven of Nine from Star Trek, Voyager like that) in otherwords, losing them by normal means is more or less impossible. To do it, I guess they'd have to do a clothing destruction bit (i.e. the leg/foot part of one of the hose would have to tear off. |
I'd love to see both of those. Do you know the episodes? |
What episodes? This is the shoe removal WISH list, the thread where we talk about what we would LIKE to see i.e. what we HAVEN'T seen yet. Those episodes DON'T EXIST. And if you mean the loss in her school uniform, that isn't an epsode it's just a piece of fanart; the person uses it as part of his banner. |
Ah, I see. But yeah, I was referring to the one in her school uniform. Is there a way to link the fanart? |
luckily I had it saved in my database
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Another anime one to consider Akemi Homura from Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. There technically is already one of her losing one of her loafers while in her school clothes (I don't have a link, but someone on one of the other (non-shoe loss) forums I frequent uses it as part of his signiature) However what I was thinking of was one in her magical girl costume. Though I admit the main reason I'd like to see that is to see how the animators could pull it off since Homura wears what I call, for lack of a better word, "bootyhose" i.e. stockings/pantyhose that appear to have soles and heels built into them (If anyone remembers Seven of Nine from Star Trek, Voyager like that) in otherwords, losing them by normal means is more or less impossible. To do it, I guess they'd have to do a clothing destruction bit (i.e. the leg/foot part of one of the hose would have to tear off. |
I'd love to see both of those. Do you know the episodes? |
What episodes? This is the shoe removal WISH list, the thread where we talk about what we would LIKE to see i.e. what we HAVEN'T seen yet. Those episodes DON'T EXIST. And if you mean the loss in her school uniform, that isn't an epsode it's just a piece of fanart; the person uses it as part of his banner.
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Another anime one to consider Akemi Homura from Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. There technically is already one of her losing one of her loafers while in her school clothes (I don't have a link, but someone on one of the other (non-shoe loss) forums I frequent uses it as part of his signiature) However what I was thinking of was one in her magical girl costume. Though I admit the main reason I'd like to see that is to see how the animators could pull it off since Homura wears what I call, for lack of a better word, "bootyhose" i.e. stockings/pantyhose that appear to have soles and heels built into them (If anyone remembers Seven of Nine from Star Trek, Voyager like that) in otherwords, losing them by normal means is more or less impossible. To do it, I guess they'd have to do a clothing destruction bit (i.e. the leg/foot part of one of the hose would have to tear off.
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To bad we have to wait a week before we can watch it on hulu. |
You have to wait a week to see the current one, which doesn't really have much of a single shoe presence (there is a brief shot of Whiney's half shod feet when they are showing the shackles around the French Canadian lumberjack's ankles) but the previous three episodes they were in are fairly old, so they should all be acessible (and no, I don't remember the titles or seasons of those three; if you want to seach TV.com for plot syompses, it's the one where Lisa tries to tutor Cletus's kids, the one where Homer crashes the car into Cletus's house and learns to make moonshine and the first episode where Bart meets Mary)
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Tonights episode reminded me of another BIG one on the Simpsons. Whitney and Jitney Spuckler (Cletus's two oldest daugthers) ALWAYS have only one shoe apiece (since they are opposite shoes, I think the joke is supposed to be that Cletus only bought one pair for the two of them) The odd thing is that after the fist time they showed up they got a set of cowboy boots (again one pair between them) and later episodes show they still have them (along with the pair of sneakers they had before) so it seems that a part of the joke is that they wear one shoe by choice.
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I'm not sure if it's a matter of "being sent to her room without it" as much as "forgetting to pick it up on her way"
There are two (or three) others in the Simpsons as well (forgive me for not knowing the episode names, its' been a while). There is a scene where Lisa is putting on her shoes in the one where Selma decides she want to have a baby (the old one where she gets her iguana, not the one where she adopts the Chinese infant).
The episode where Lovejoy/has a nervos breakdown/ Homer discovers he is Mr. Sparkle has a scene where Lisa kicks off her shoes after getting home from church
Finally there is a scene near the beginning of "The Last Tempatation of Krust" has a scene where Marge takes Bart and Lisa shopping at Goody New Shoes. However, you are going to have to look online/ get the DVD to see it, since that bit was cut out of the syndicated day to day version (to make the episode shorter for the higher amount of commecials they like to put in.
and finally an ebay item that showed up (alas, I already have this one)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FRED-SPURGIN-Signed-Comic-Child-Girl-Lost-Shoe-Post
card-All-Is-Not-Lost-1914-/111007742964?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19d8
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adding pic, as the auction will eventually run out
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Note to members, as I recall both of these are "people free" losses i.e. in neither case do the shoes vanish while people are supposed to be wearing them so no one-shoe scenese (the closest you get is in the Cinderella episode, where the teacher takes off one of his sandals to use as a substitute glass slipper, and even them I don'y think you see his foot.
But I agree about the hard to find thing. If I recall in order to see the non cinderella one (I found out about it after the show was no longer on TV) I had to buy a Japanese DVD, and then do the "old computer trick" to actually watch it (Japanese DVD's are region 2 as opposed to the US's region 1 so Japanese DVD's are not playable on American DVD player (Interstingly, Japanese VHS's ARE playable in the US, since They used the NTHSC system (as opposed to PAL) So to get around it, I took one of our old disposable computers and basically gave it multiple personality disorder; putting multiple seperate copies of the DVD playing program on it each set to a different region (computers have a little chip in them to "lock" the region code after 2-3 changes, so simply toggling back and forth doesn't work)
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Originally posted by Steven Of Alabasta
I also find it weird that there have been no shoe losses in the main Pokémon anime in the 16 years it's been running. There have been some scattered ones in the various manga (a couple I posted in the male loss thread I started); and fan art often involves losses with the characters from the games. Heck, the Great Marsh in Diamond and Pearl would seem like a place where shoe loss would happen a lot (as it is a marsh, there's plenty of waterlogged mud that could suck off a person's shoe). Instead, it often envelops your entire player character (you pop out after a few seconds of wiggling the d-pad on the DS).
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There is also the fact that, if I recall, in Gold and silver the game occasionally says that a pokemon who you haven't yet maxed the happiness of is chewing on your shoe (there were some fairly funny arts of that as I recall, given how big some of the Pokemon are and how savage thier teeth are (read, biting you foot off). You'd think that that would mean every now and again, one of those pokemon would actually manage to pull your shoe off (I've seen 1-2 arts of this, but no official)
The closest I can think of to "official" one shoe Pokemon art is the "hugging pillow" art I posted earlier of Katsumire and the other femal gym leader. That's official Pokemon merchandice so presumably it would have had to get approval.
On a side note, I expect some semi-decent chances from the next generation. I've seen some of the fanart for the upcoming Pokemon XY on danbooru, and it seems that at the moment no one is quite sure waht kind of footwear the female protagonist is going to get officilally. A few have given her the sneakers that we are used to for the lead character (most of the female protagonists we have had so far have worn sneakers, or high boots) but quite a few are guessing she will have slip ons or mary janes (good for shoe loss) and I have seen at least art that suggests that she may actually get high heeled pumps.
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I probably posted this before (I honestly don't remember) but I found a youtube link to one of the two boot losses from the old cartoon The Perils of Penelope Pitstop. The first one of them (the one where she pulls her feet out of her boots to shed a rope is probably well known on this forum, since a lot of us have seen the stills of it on Toodeboot. The second one (the one I am posting here) is mentioned there, but the mention is hoplessly garbled (for one thing, it refers to the wrong episode, and then mentions a secenario that does not actually happen to try and reconcile the loss the person seems to remember (from the next episode, the one below) with what they remember of that one. The loss is around 1:49, and in true cartton logic, she has both boots back the next time we see her feet despite 1. he hands are still tied, so she couldn't have grabbed it again and 2. she has flown up into the air and drifted some distance, so her boot (along with anything else on the ground, should now be a fairly long distance away.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RrfC7B_L6s
Few others
Tiny toon Adventures, "A Whale's Tale" (appx 10:00)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S6atkm1U-Vw
Weekend Afternoon Live (9:04) (not an actualy loss, but the front half of one of her shoes is blown off)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-OXx8InX8A
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Another one (too new to have link yet)
Dan Vs. "Dan Vs. The Common Cold". There is a scene around 2/3 of the way through the episode where the episode villian (and ex supermodel) takes off one of her black pumps to threaten Dan after he breaks into her apartment. There is a shot of her in one shoe, but it is far angle so not really good (you can see that one foot is black and one flesh toned, but no detail) and by the next time you see her feet she has both shoes on again (which is odd, as she just actually did throw one of them)
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That's ceartainly a big part of it, Another part that actually comes from that tradtion is that (at least when you are talking about around the house qiuck errand, it is considered to be OK to use any aviailable pair, whether or not they are acutally yours (seeing a 50 year old Japanese man running to the corner store wearing his wife's slip on heeled mules is not at all an uncommon sight in Japan, not is it considered at all odd (unless, as my copy of You Know You've Lived In Japan Too Long.... points out tyou decide to paint your toenails first 
) I suspect it all comes from the period of Japanese history up until around the Meji Revolution where pretty much the only kind of shoes ANYONE wore in Japan were slip on sandals of one kind or another. I also personally suspect the "no hands if you can help it" tradtion also explains why the shoe of choice for school uniforms is the loafer with variants of the mary jane a second for younger grades as opposed to the west (where there is a pretty even split between loafers, basic tennis shoes/sneakers oxfords and flats of some sort) The fact you can put a loafer on by slipping it on and adjusting it actually can be done with a tap of the toe or a single finger (read, no laces to tie) probably is considered a plus (even if you do take them off as soon as you get to school and put on your school shoes (those fabric and elastic things you see in anime).
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Nice, though technically Momji's loafer should be mashed down in the back like pretty much every worn out shoe in Japan (because it is preferable in Japan to not touch your shoes when you put them on, most well worn "around the house" shoes tend to get backs that are mashed down, so they can just be slipped on) It is that way in the anime.
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Yeah, forgot that one. Actually it's rather interesting, as it has to be one of the very few times a pony is wearing horseshoes we can actually see. What few other examples there are are basically inference, they leave horseshoe shaped marks with thier hooves, but no shoe is visible (I think the only other time we've seen a horshoe actually on a pony's hoof was Spitfire (when she was stamping the orders in her office). I'm actually not sure that some of the ponies don't wear them (check that, I am almost CONVINCED that some ponies don't wear them (including Twilight and Rarity)
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Cinderella from a Chinese BooK I bought today
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Thanks for the info. I do want to check this one out. I wonder if they sell it in chinatown. |
Chinatown no, these are Japanese mangas (and pretty specialist ones at that, i.e. not a major publisher). I'll PM you with my advice on how to get them.
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Another oz item(s) of note
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This three volume set is a liberal (very liberal) re-interpretation of the story. In this one, the "silver shoes" are a pair of enchanted boots with very odd powers (as far as I can tell, the main one being that, whenever dorothy touches someone with one, whatever magic or enchantments they may have on them are dispelled.).
ALL of the volumes have at least one or two panels of Dorothy with one boot (or both) off for varios reasons. Since the power is in the boots themselves, there are a lot of cases where she throws one of them to one of her companions so they can touch it to something to break the spell on it. There is also the fact that, unlike the canon book silver shoes (which are basically indestrucable) the boots in this manga wear out at an alarming rate, so she has to remove them for repairs quite freqently. This culinates in the third book in one of the boots actually tearing down the side and falling off her foot during an escape, and dorothy walking around in one boot for about 3-4 chapters (which probably beats that other manga record mentioned earlier).
Unfortunately I can't put up any scans of this, these mangas are very fat (fatter in fact than most paperback books) and have very stiff spines, so I can't get them open enough to get a good scan/picture. I can't even give page references (they aren't paginated). But maybe they are up on one of the manga reading sites, and you can browse them there (one warning, some parts do get a little adult) |
Interesting. Does she wear stockings or socks of some sort under them? |
Hard to say. She cartainly wears something under them, either stockings or socks, since you can't see her toes (well except for one bit in the middle of 2, when she hurts her foot and it's bandaged). However my money would be on socks, or, if they are stockings, they are stockings in the length sense (remember for a long while, the actual cut off between socks and stockings wasn't how thin they were, it was how long they were [socks, below your knees, stockings above) i.e. thick (probably cotton or wool) and not sheer
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Another oz item(s) of note
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86535/ref=sr_1_22?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1356486516&sr=1-22#reader_4821186535
http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%82%AA%E3%82%BA%E3%81%AE%E9%AD%94%E6%B3%95%E4%BD
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1188198/ref=sr_1_40?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1356486619&sr=1-40
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1188201/ref=sr_1_39?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1356486619&sr=1-39
This three volume set is a liberal (very liberal) re-interpretation of the story. In this one, the "silver shoes" are a pair of enchanted boots with very odd powers (as far as I can tell, the main one being that, whenever dorothy touches someone with one, whatever magic or enchantments they may have on them are dispelled.).
ALL of the volumes have at least one or two panels of Dorothy with one boot (or both) off for varios reasons. Since the power is in the boots themselves, there are a lot of cases where she throws one of them to one of her companions so they can touch it to something to break the spell on it. There is also the fact that, unlike the canon book silver shoes (which are basically indestrucable) the boots in this manga wear out at an alarming rate, so she has to remove them for repairs quite freqently. This culinates in the third book in one of the boots actually tearing down the side and falling off her foot during an escape, and dorothy walking around in one boot for about 3-4 chapters (which probably beats that other manga record mentioned earlier).
Unfortunately I can't put up any scans of this, these mangas are very fat (fatter in fact than most paperback books) and have very stiff spines, so I can't get them open enough to get a good scan/picture. I can't even give page references (they aren't paginated). But maybe they are up on one of the manga reading sites, and you can browse them there (one warning, some parts do get a little adult)
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Thank you. Very good information you've given me. |
This previos Saturday's MLP:FIM also had some shoe losses/removals. The old pony was of c ourse missing one of her rusty horeshoes (though whether that count's or not depends a lot on whether you feel that horseshoes count as "horse shoes"). Also Rarity took off one of her yellow shoes in one scene so she could file her hoof.
I found another old one
Superman The Animated series. In the episode "Brave New Metropolis" Near the middle, there is a short scene of a guard fetching Lois Lane out of a holding cell to take her to Lex Luthor. While not a shoe loss per se when you see her on the bench in the cell, her left heel is dangling something like 80% off
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